You are referring to the Lebanese Civil War, when Israel was actively fighting Muslim militias alongside their allies, the Christian Phalangeists. There ws no time for settlement building. Then Hezbollah was founded in 1982 in order to fight Israel, and they chased Israel out of Lebanon.
I have no idea what you mean by that comment, because you seem to be referring to the explosion of settler violence in the West Bank, illegal violence, land theft, assault, murder, destruction of property, etc.- all committed by government-armed Israeli settlers, aided and abetted by the IDF.
Hamas is not active there, and neither is Hezbollah. The Palestinians in the West Bank are unarmed.
IOW, in case you have not understood: you are making my point for me. Israeli settlements only thrive where the Israelis are the only ones with the guns.
Ignore the troll. Anonymous account, probably created for that purpose without a name or picture or any activity except reading your articles and writing provocative comments are all dead giveaways.
Also the real sad part and one of the reasons ' The Zionist Entity ' even lasted this
long is primarily because it's neighbors were at war with eachother for a long time, until recently that is. Thanks to The Islamic Republic of Iran that has stood up and said enough is enough and started uniting and building a resistance front that has finally started to fight back and actually checkmate these nefarious and diabolical Jooish Israhellis.
And it's about time too. Hopefully good riddance to them soon.
Just a note for anyone wandering by who DOES believe "God" promised Abraham Eretz Israel. Archeology has now proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was no Abraham, and indeed there was not even an Israelite until well into the Iron Age. The "Israelites" were a disparate group of people (not a tribe or ethnicity) who fled to the Canaanite hill country upon the Bronze Age collapse of the Egyptian empire. Over time they developed a group identity and began, like all people, to invent their legendary past. None of this was written down until many hundreds of years after these "events' supposedly took place; in fact, these stories were probably first written down during the Babylonian Captivity between 598 and 538 BC. Some scholars have hypothesized that this legendary bloody past of the Israelites may have been prompted by their shame at having been repeatedly seized by large empires (which they would be several more times.) But in any case, we know conclusively there was no Abraham, because Jews are of Canaanite ancestry, not Mesopotamian; there was no Exodus, because 100 years of trying have turned up no evidence whatsoever of any group of people wandering through the Sinai, and there was no "conquest," because the cities the Israelites supposedly conquered either didn't exist or were just a few poor shanties when they were supposedly "conquered." Archaeology has also shown that Hebrew monotheism was a fairly late development: the early and mid Israelites worshipped all the usual Canaanite pantheon. David and Solomon were not great kings and had no great kingdoms--they were minor warlords at best. Jerusalem under David probably had no more than 5000 people. And there was no "united kingdom" of Judah/Israel. First there was the northern kingdom of Israel, and then when that was conquered by the Assyrian empire, many Israelites fled south to Judah, which then was independent for a short time before it too was conquered. At no time did the Israelites control or rule all of Palestine (and they were by no means the only native Canaanite group) except for 17 years under the Greek/Hasmonean tyrant Alexander Jannaeus, and about 95% of their existence was spent as vassals of the Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks and Romans. So this entire Zionist narrative of "Eretz Israel" is not only completely hypocritical because Zionism is a colonial, secular movement, but it was a fairy tale to start with.
Hi Linda, I have 'Did Moses Exist? The Myth of the Israelite Lawgiver' by D. M. Murdoch on my bookshelf, have you read it? I haven't yet (big pile before it). Can you recommend any other good books on the topic?
Niclas, I will check this book out, but the author gives me pause, because she is one of the people who has claimed that Jesus was not a real person. I am not a believer, but I can say categorically that there is NO real New Testament scholar, no matter how agnostic or atheistic, who thinks that Jesus was not a real person. There is just too much evidence he was real, and too many people who knew him or knew people who knew him. Paul of Tarsus, for example, spent extensive time with the apostles who were closest to Jesus, including James, Jesus's own brother. That is not to say that there might not be lots of things in the gospels that never happened, since they weren't written until decades after Jesus's death, and then by people who weren't there. Now, about Moses. There might have been a person who was real that was a leader of the people who later became the Israelites. We do know they didn't escape from Egypt, and that there weren't 600,000 of them as the Bible claims. At the time when the Exodus was supposed to have occurred, all of Palestine was part of the Egyptian empire, so the people would have just been escaping from Egypt to go to....Egypt. And as I said, there is not any evidence a large group of people passed through the Sinai (except along the coast road, which was heavily traveled by merchants and Egyptian soldiers). MUCH effort has been spent trying to prove they did, all for naught. That being said, the Moses stories MIGHT have arisen from a cultural memory of the people who escaped the Egyptian coastal cities IN PALESTINE during the Bronze Age collapse of the Egyptian Empire. As things destabilized, many poor people and slaves suddenly found themselves able to escape what had been a life of misery and servitude to Egyptian elites. A number of them made their way to the Palestine hills, where they began farming and forming villages, sharing expertise. Eventually as I said in the earlier post, they formed their own cultural identity and became Israelites, and then much later, Jews. Here are some books to check out:
Yonatan Adler, The Origins of Judaism
Frank Moore Cross, Canaanite Myth and Hebrew Epic
William G. Dever, Who Were the Iraelites and Where Did They Come From?
Erik Eynikel, The Reform of King Josiah
Avraham Faust, Israel's Ethnogenesis
Israel Finkelstein and Amihai Mazar, The Quest for the Historical Israel
Israel Finkelstein and Neil Silberman, The Bible Unearthed
Israel Finkelstein and Neil Silberman, David and Solomon
Jacob Rabinowitz, The Faces of God
Thomas Romer, The So-Called Deuteronomistic History
Thomas Romer, Dark God
Thomas L. Thompson, The Mythic Past: Biblical Archaeology & Myth of Israel
Jacob L. Wright, Why the Bible Began: An Alternative History of Scripture
by Eustace Mullins. Also you have to look into his other great books he wrote on these
Legendary Troublemaker's. Nobody knows more about this subject than him.
Also you can look into a Russian website created by a woman from the Federation that has a giant database of 30+ million books to download at your leisure.
LibraryaGenesis.ru, however they keep shutting it down due to it being totally free for all. The philosophy behind the concept is that knowledge should not be held back but accessable to all mankind and unconditionally.
If you can find it and you do bookmark it, put any author or any name of a book you want to read in the ' search ' bar and guaranteed you find it.
You are as full of lies as Wikipedia is. This is a total perversion of history what you’ve written. Selective quotations and ignorance of what actually happened.
Oh, look! Another rando drive-by Zionist just stirring the pot with offhand comments and unfounded accusations. Crawl back to your hidey-hole, it's what you do best.
Actually, you would like it for me to climb it some hole. It would make life so much easier for you, wouldn’t it?
There is so much wrong with your article that it’s incredible. It would take me a post twice as long just to point out how you have distorted history and invented your own “facts.” I compared you to a communist because in the Soviet union they would invent new fax whenever it became convenient to great degree, that reflects what you have done.
This is a typicaL Zionist critique. I do not know whether it is laziness or mendacity, or a combination of the two, but I have "met" may lying Zionists like you, who simply make the completely unfounded, unproven and undocumented "claim" that "everything" in my article is wrong, that my facts are "made u" and my article is "ahistoric".
This is all just more typical Zionist hasbara, and i would ask you to keep your opinions to yourself if you are incapable of documenting or supporting them.
Iapologize to you. It was laziness. There are so many falsehoods and false premises in your article that it would’ve taken a long time to refute them all. In my experience, every time I present counterarguments the response I get is insults, which tells me that I have won the argument, but I’ve not changed any minds.
So, let’s start with your argument that the reason Israel hasn’t proclaimed with borders is because it is still hoping for a Greater Israel. You know that there are two established borders, that between Israel and Egypt, and Israel and Jordan. Israel has accepted these as recognized borders, There is no chance of there being a greater Israel as you described. There was also a border with Gaza. In 2005, Israel withdrew from Gaza and removed several Israeli settlements from the region . At the same time, they removed settlements in the north of the West Bank. During the withdrawal from Gaza, Israel left several very productive greenhouses, which were used for growing hydroponic vegetables, intact. As soon as the Palestinians took over, they tore these down For the materials. The of the time, Shimon Perez, went on a tour to try to race $10 billion to support the new Palestinian government in Gaza. By the next year, I won the election, kill thousands of their political opponents, and building their tunnels and the program to fire rockets on Israel.
The only countries with which Israel does not have a recognized border are Syria and Lebanon. Both of these countries are still in a state of war with Israel and have not negotiated orders.
It may be true that before the founding of the state they were movements that wanted to take the whole region of Palestine, as the Jewish homeland, this was not in their control. the British could deal with it as they wished. That’s why they walked off the Eastern 2/3 of Palestine and gave it to the Hashimi Prince Ali as a kingdom.
By 1947, design is movement had accepted the borders proposed to them by the United Nations, and that was to be the official border of the state of visual. However, the surrounding Arab countries did not wish to recognize the existence of a Jewish state. To paraphrase Ernest Evans, the foreign secretary of the United Kingdom of the time, the Jesus establish a Jewish state. The Arabs were not interested in establishing any state they were, they were only interested in eliminating the possibility of Jewish state. seven Arab armies attacked, but they failed to destroy Israel and push the juice into the seat as they have promised. They had failed to carry out their state of plans to massacre the Jewish population of Palestine. Instead, they lost territory, as happens in wars. just the Germans.
Another false is that Israel started the six day war and the Yom Kippur war. The 60 day war happened after years of intermittent bombing and showing of farm communities in the gallery by Syria. But the most immediate cause was the blockade of the trace of Chan , international waterway, to prevent shipping to the southern Israel port of a lot. Is there a waited several weeks for a promised international flotilla to open up the streets. This never happened. Finally, on June 5, 1967, is your responded, wiping out the air air forces, and taking the sign desert, the West Bank, and the Heights. It is real soon after offered to return those territories and exchange for peace. However, in a conference in cartoon, Sudan, at the end of August 1967, the Arabs issued their response of the three nose: no recognition of Israel, no negotiations, and no peace.
These are just a couple examples of the fossil in your long post. You can see that Israel was willing to accept much more supporters at the time, that Israel has been willing to dismantle settlements, and that Israel was going to negotiate for peace.
Your thesis that Israel will not proclaim as borders is not consistent with reality or history.
This is not a border. Gaza is not a separate country. It is an "Occupied Territory". That is why the current conflict in Gaza is not a "war" but rather a genocide of an occupied internal population.
Israel may have withdrawn its troops, but it still controls Gaza, which they turned into the world's largest open air concentration camp. In short, if the guards of a prison withdraw from the prison but still keep the prison locked, and control everything and everyone that goes in and out of the prison, then the prisoners are not free.
As far as Greater Israel is concerned, it cannot be disputed that this is the long term goal of the Zionists. Why else would the Irgun have that map on their emblem?
By the way, here’s another reason I don’t like to make these long responses. Inevitably, some of what I dictate has to be corrected and sometimes I accidentally post before I can make the corrections.
As I was saying, that Shimon Peres, the president of Israel at the time, went on a tour to raise $10 billion for Gaza. By the next year, Hamas won the election, killed thousands of their political opponents, and started building their tunnels and began to fire rockets on Israel.
As to the prior belief of some designers group in the hope of greater Israel, and that a Jewish homeland would be established in all of British mandatory Palestine, that belief was abandoned for practical reasons. By 1947 the Zionists had accepted the borders designated by the United Nations, but they were attacked by seven Arab armies. Those armies failed to massacre the Jews as promised, failed to push the Zionists into the sea, and as happens in wars, they lost territory. That happens in wars. Just ask the Germans.
Another falsehood is that Israel started the six day war and the Yom Kippur war. In 1967, Egypt blockaded the straits of Tiran. Israel waited several weeks for an international flotilla to open up the streets. When this didn’t happen, Israel responded to that active war by attacking threatening nations, destroying the air forces of Jordan, Egypt, and Syria, and conquering the Sinai desert the West Bank, and the Golan Heights. Israel immediately offered to exchange land for peace. However, at Arab Summit held in Khartoum at the end of August, 1967, the air responded with the three nos no peace, no negotiations, no recognition of Israel.
As for the Yom Kippur war. Israel had intelligence of an impending attack. However, the Americans warn them that if the Israelis struck preemptively, the United States would not support them in any war that resulted.
Those are just a few of the refutations of the falsehoods in your post. Israel has been willing to withdraw settlements, they have been willing to negotiate for peace, and they have been willing to recognize borders.
You also note that the secular Zionists of yore are no longer in power. The greatest political asset of right wing Israelis has always been the Palestinian terrorist.
Your thesis that Israel will not define its borders is not consistent with either reality or history.
"Mossad-curated" Wikipedia? LMAO.
Yes, Israel is at war with the neighbors who are at war with them. Those neighbors who are not at war with them (Jordan and Egypt) are totally fine.
By the way, Israel was occupying Lebanon for 18 years backs in the 1970s and 1980s. How many settlements did they build then?
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You are referring to the Lebanese Civil War, when Israel was actively fighting Muslim militias alongside their allies, the Christian Phalangeists. There ws no time for settlement building. Then Hezbollah was founded in 1982 in order to fight Israel, and they chased Israel out of Lebanon.
You should really read my articles.
18 years isn’t enough time? 🤡
Not with militias and Hezbollah on the scene.
Right, like the West Bank is totally peaceful. Keep coping.
I have no idea what you mean by that comment, because you seem to be referring to the explosion of settler violence in the West Bank, illegal violence, land theft, assault, murder, destruction of property, etc.- all committed by government-armed Israeli settlers, aided and abetted by the IDF.
Hamas is not active there, and neither is Hezbollah. The Palestinians in the West Bank are unarmed.
IOW, in case you have not understood: you are making my point for me. Israeli settlements only thrive where the Israelis are the only ones with the guns.
Yes, Hamas is active in the West Bank:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1l4qy7q314o
You really don't know much of anything about this issue, do you?
Ignore the troll. Anonymous account, probably created for that purpose without a name or picture or any activity except reading your articles and writing provocative comments are all dead giveaways.
Keep up the good work you do!
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Also the real sad part and one of the reasons ' The Zionist Entity ' even lasted this
long is primarily because it's neighbors were at war with eachother for a long time, until recently that is. Thanks to The Islamic Republic of Iran that has stood up and said enough is enough and started uniting and building a resistance front that has finally started to fight back and actually checkmate these nefarious and diabolical Jooish Israhellis.
And it's about time too. Hopefully good riddance to them soon.
Thanks for admitting it's actually Palestine and its allies who are the genocidal ones. Every accusation is a confession.
You are an unhinged troll, and now you are just being silly.
Just a note for anyone wandering by who DOES believe "God" promised Abraham Eretz Israel. Archeology has now proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was no Abraham, and indeed there was not even an Israelite until well into the Iron Age. The "Israelites" were a disparate group of people (not a tribe or ethnicity) who fled to the Canaanite hill country upon the Bronze Age collapse of the Egyptian empire. Over time they developed a group identity and began, like all people, to invent their legendary past. None of this was written down until many hundreds of years after these "events' supposedly took place; in fact, these stories were probably first written down during the Babylonian Captivity between 598 and 538 BC. Some scholars have hypothesized that this legendary bloody past of the Israelites may have been prompted by their shame at having been repeatedly seized by large empires (which they would be several more times.) But in any case, we know conclusively there was no Abraham, because Jews are of Canaanite ancestry, not Mesopotamian; there was no Exodus, because 100 years of trying have turned up no evidence whatsoever of any group of people wandering through the Sinai, and there was no "conquest," because the cities the Israelites supposedly conquered either didn't exist or were just a few poor shanties when they were supposedly "conquered." Archaeology has also shown that Hebrew monotheism was a fairly late development: the early and mid Israelites worshipped all the usual Canaanite pantheon. David and Solomon were not great kings and had no great kingdoms--they were minor warlords at best. Jerusalem under David probably had no more than 5000 people. And there was no "united kingdom" of Judah/Israel. First there was the northern kingdom of Israel, and then when that was conquered by the Assyrian empire, many Israelites fled south to Judah, which then was independent for a short time before it too was conquered. At no time did the Israelites control or rule all of Palestine (and they were by no means the only native Canaanite group) except for 17 years under the Greek/Hasmonean tyrant Alexander Jannaeus, and about 95% of their existence was spent as vassals of the Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks and Romans. So this entire Zionist narrative of "Eretz Israel" is not only completely hypocritical because Zionism is a colonial, secular movement, but it was a fairy tale to start with.
Hi Linda, I have 'Did Moses Exist? The Myth of the Israelite Lawgiver' by D. M. Murdoch on my bookshelf, have you read it? I haven't yet (big pile before it). Can you recommend any other good books on the topic?
Niclas, I will check this book out, but the author gives me pause, because she is one of the people who has claimed that Jesus was not a real person. I am not a believer, but I can say categorically that there is NO real New Testament scholar, no matter how agnostic or atheistic, who thinks that Jesus was not a real person. There is just too much evidence he was real, and too many people who knew him or knew people who knew him. Paul of Tarsus, for example, spent extensive time with the apostles who were closest to Jesus, including James, Jesus's own brother. That is not to say that there might not be lots of things in the gospels that never happened, since they weren't written until decades after Jesus's death, and then by people who weren't there. Now, about Moses. There might have been a person who was real that was a leader of the people who later became the Israelites. We do know they didn't escape from Egypt, and that there weren't 600,000 of them as the Bible claims. At the time when the Exodus was supposed to have occurred, all of Palestine was part of the Egyptian empire, so the people would have just been escaping from Egypt to go to....Egypt. And as I said, there is not any evidence a large group of people passed through the Sinai (except along the coast road, which was heavily traveled by merchants and Egyptian soldiers). MUCH effort has been spent trying to prove they did, all for naught. That being said, the Moses stories MIGHT have arisen from a cultural memory of the people who escaped the Egyptian coastal cities IN PALESTINE during the Bronze Age collapse of the Egyptian Empire. As things destabilized, many poor people and slaves suddenly found themselves able to escape what had been a life of misery and servitude to Egyptian elites. A number of them made their way to the Palestine hills, where they began farming and forming villages, sharing expertise. Eventually as I said in the earlier post, they formed their own cultural identity and became Israelites, and then much later, Jews. Here are some books to check out:
Yonatan Adler, The Origins of Judaism
Frank Moore Cross, Canaanite Myth and Hebrew Epic
William G. Dever, Who Were the Iraelites and Where Did They Come From?
Erik Eynikel, The Reform of King Josiah
Avraham Faust, Israel's Ethnogenesis
Israel Finkelstein and Amihai Mazar, The Quest for the Historical Israel
Israel Finkelstein and Neil Silberman, The Bible Unearthed
Israel Finkelstein and Neil Silberman, David and Solomon
Jacob Rabinowitz, The Faces of God
Thomas Romer, The So-Called Deuteronomistic History
Thomas Romer, Dark God
Thomas L. Thompson, The Mythic Past: Biblical Archaeology & Myth of Israel
Jacob L. Wright, Why the Bible Began: An Alternative History of Scripture
Ya, please check out ' The Curse of Canaan '
by Eustace Mullins. Also you have to look into his other great books he wrote on these
Legendary Troublemaker's. Nobody knows more about this subject than him.
Also you can look into a Russian website created by a woman from the Federation that has a giant database of 30+ million books to download at your leisure.
LibraryaGenesis.ru, however they keep shutting it down due to it being totally free for all. The philosophy behind the concept is that knowledge should not be held back but accessable to all mankind and unconditionally.
If you can find it and you do bookmark it, put any author or any name of a book you want to read in the ' search ' bar and guaranteed you find it.
Cheers and happy reading.
Well the link doesn't work for me, but this one did.
https://libgen.mx/
Thank you for this exhaustive description of the greater Israel project and its course.
You are as full of lies as Wikipedia is. This is a total perversion of history what you’ve written. Selective quotations and ignorance of what actually happened.
You obviously make a great communist.
Oh, look! Another rando drive-by Zionist just stirring the pot with offhand comments and unfounded accusations. Crawl back to your hidey-hole, it's what you do best.
Actually, you would like it for me to climb it some hole. It would make life so much easier for you, wouldn’t it?
There is so much wrong with your article that it’s incredible. It would take me a post twice as long just to point out how you have distorted history and invented your own “facts.” I compared you to a communist because in the Soviet union they would invent new fax whenever it became convenient to great degree, that reflects what you have done.
This is a typicaL Zionist critique. I do not know whether it is laziness or mendacity, or a combination of the two, but I have "met" may lying Zionists like you, who simply make the completely unfounded, unproven and undocumented "claim" that "everything" in my article is wrong, that my facts are "made u" and my article is "ahistoric".
This is all just more typical Zionist hasbara, and i would ask you to keep your opinions to yourself if you are incapable of documenting or supporting them.
Iapologize to you. It was laziness. There are so many falsehoods and false premises in your article that it would’ve taken a long time to refute them all. In my experience, every time I present counterarguments the response I get is insults, which tells me that I have won the argument, but I’ve not changed any minds.
So, let’s start with your argument that the reason Israel hasn’t proclaimed with borders is because it is still hoping for a Greater Israel. You know that there are two established borders, that between Israel and Egypt, and Israel and Jordan. Israel has accepted these as recognized borders, There is no chance of there being a greater Israel as you described. There was also a border with Gaza. In 2005, Israel withdrew from Gaza and removed several Israeli settlements from the region . At the same time, they removed settlements in the north of the West Bank. During the withdrawal from Gaza, Israel left several very productive greenhouses, which were used for growing hydroponic vegetables, intact. As soon as the Palestinians took over, they tore these down For the materials. The of the time, Shimon Perez, went on a tour to try to race $10 billion to support the new Palestinian government in Gaza. By the next year, I won the election, kill thousands of their political opponents, and building their tunnels and the program to fire rockets on Israel.
The only countries with which Israel does not have a recognized border are Syria and Lebanon. Both of these countries are still in a state of war with Israel and have not negotiated orders.
It may be true that before the founding of the state they were movements that wanted to take the whole region of Palestine, as the Jewish homeland, this was not in their control. the British could deal with it as they wished. That’s why they walked off the Eastern 2/3 of Palestine and gave it to the Hashimi Prince Ali as a kingdom.
By 1947, design is movement had accepted the borders proposed to them by the United Nations, and that was to be the official border of the state of visual. However, the surrounding Arab countries did not wish to recognize the existence of a Jewish state. To paraphrase Ernest Evans, the foreign secretary of the United Kingdom of the time, the Jesus establish a Jewish state. The Arabs were not interested in establishing any state they were, they were only interested in eliminating the possibility of Jewish state. seven Arab armies attacked, but they failed to destroy Israel and push the juice into the seat as they have promised. They had failed to carry out their state of plans to massacre the Jewish population of Palestine. Instead, they lost territory, as happens in wars. just the Germans.
Another false is that Israel started the six day war and the Yom Kippur war. The 60 day war happened after years of intermittent bombing and showing of farm communities in the gallery by Syria. But the most immediate cause was the blockade of the trace of Chan , international waterway, to prevent shipping to the southern Israel port of a lot. Is there a waited several weeks for a promised international flotilla to open up the streets. This never happened. Finally, on June 5, 1967, is your responded, wiping out the air air forces, and taking the sign desert, the West Bank, and the Heights. It is real soon after offered to return those territories and exchange for peace. However, in a conference in cartoon, Sudan, at the end of August 1967, the Arabs issued their response of the three nose: no recognition of Israel, no negotiations, and no peace.
These are just a couple examples of the fossil in your long post. You can see that Israel was willing to accept much more supporters at the time, that Israel has been willing to dismantle settlements, and that Israel was going to negotiate for peace.
Your thesis that Israel will not proclaim as borders is not consistent with reality or history.
"There was also a border with Gaza."
This is not a border. Gaza is not a separate country. It is an "Occupied Territory". That is why the current conflict in Gaza is not a "war" but rather a genocide of an occupied internal population.
Israel may have withdrawn its troops, but it still controls Gaza, which they turned into the world's largest open air concentration camp. In short, if the guards of a prison withdraw from the prison but still keep the prison locked, and control everything and everyone that goes in and out of the prison, then the prisoners are not free.
As far as Greater Israel is concerned, it cannot be disputed that this is the long term goal of the Zionists. Why else would the Irgun have that map on their emblem?
Regarding Israel's respect of borders with Egypt and Jordan:
"Israel’s Seizure of Gaza Border Zone Strains Ties With Egypt"
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/03/world/middleeast/egypt-corridor-israel-gaza-border.html
And Jordan:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-annexation-how-will-jordan-respond
In short, Israel does not respect borders.
By the way, here’s another reason I don’t like to make these long responses. Inevitably, some of what I dictate has to be corrected and sometimes I accidentally post before I can make the corrections.
As I was saying, that Shimon Peres, the president of Israel at the time, went on a tour to raise $10 billion for Gaza. By the next year, Hamas won the election, killed thousands of their political opponents, and started building their tunnels and began to fire rockets on Israel.
As to the prior belief of some designers group in the hope of greater Israel, and that a Jewish homeland would be established in all of British mandatory Palestine, that belief was abandoned for practical reasons. By 1947 the Zionists had accepted the borders designated by the United Nations, but they were attacked by seven Arab armies. Those armies failed to massacre the Jews as promised, failed to push the Zionists into the sea, and as happens in wars, they lost territory. That happens in wars. Just ask the Germans.
Another falsehood is that Israel started the six day war and the Yom Kippur war. In 1967, Egypt blockaded the straits of Tiran. Israel waited several weeks for an international flotilla to open up the streets. When this didn’t happen, Israel responded to that active war by attacking threatening nations, destroying the air forces of Jordan, Egypt, and Syria, and conquering the Sinai desert the West Bank, and the Golan Heights. Israel immediately offered to exchange land for peace. However, at Arab Summit held in Khartoum at the end of August, 1967, the air responded with the three nos no peace, no negotiations, no recognition of Israel.
As for the Yom Kippur war. Israel had intelligence of an impending attack. However, the Americans warn them that if the Israelis struck preemptively, the United States would not support them in any war that resulted.
Those are just a few of the refutations of the falsehoods in your post. Israel has been willing to withdraw settlements, they have been willing to negotiate for peace, and they have been willing to recognize borders.
You also note that the secular Zionists of yore are no longer in power. The greatest political asset of right wing Israelis has always been the Palestinian terrorist.
Your thesis that Israel will not define its borders is not consistent with either reality or history.
"By 1947 the Zionists had accepted the borders designated by the United Nations". They never did.