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Linda Hagge's avatar

Just a note for anyone wandering by who DOES believe "God" promised Abraham Eretz Israel. Archeology has now proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was no Abraham, and indeed there was not even an Israelite until well into the Iron Age. The "Israelites" were a disparate group of people (not a tribe or ethnicity) who fled to the Canaanite hill country upon the Bronze Age collapse of the Egyptian empire. Over time they developed a group identity and began, like all people, to invent their legendary past. None of this was written down until many hundreds of years after these "events' supposedly took place; in fact, these stories were probably first written down during the Babylonian Captivity between 598 and 538 BC. Some scholars have hypothesized that this legendary bloody past of the Israelites may have been prompted by their shame at having been repeatedly seized by large empires (which they would be several more times.) But in any case, we know conclusively there was no Abraham, because Jews are of Canaanite ancestry, not Mesopotamian; there was no Exodus, because 100 years of trying have turned up no evidence whatsoever of any group of people wandering through the Sinai, and there was no "conquest," because the cities the Israelites supposedly conquered either didn't exist or were just a few poor shanties when they were supposedly "conquered." Archaeology has also shown that Hebrew monotheism was a fairly late development: the early and mid Israelites worshipped all the usual Canaanite pantheon. David and Solomon were not great kings and had no great kingdoms--they were minor warlords at best. Jerusalem under David probably had no more than 5000 people. And there was no "united kingdom" of Judah/Israel. First there was the northern kingdom of Israel, and then when that was conquered by the Assyrian empire, many Israelites fled south to Judah, which then was independent for a short time before it too was conquered. At no time did the Israelites control or rule all of Palestine (and they were by no means the only native Canaanite group) except for 17 years under the Greek/Hasmonean tyrant Alexander Jannaeus, and about 95% of their existence was spent as vassals of the Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks and Romans. So this entire Zionist narrative of "Eretz Israel" is not only completely hypocritical because Zionism is a colonial, secular movement, but it was a fairy tale to start with.

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Irfan A Khan's avatar

Thank you for this exhaustive description of the greater Israel project and its course.

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