Actually you are WRONG. 100% WRONG. Orbán and I may feel similarly about Jews in general (i.e., supportive), but we differ COMPLETELY when it comes to Zionists and Israel:
From the AP:
"Netanyahu greets Hungary’s Orban as ‘true friend of Israel’"
"But for Israel, and those in its government concerned with realpolitik, Orban’s victory is a diplomatic blessing: Hungary under Orban has proven to be a sturdy friend of Israel in European institutions."
I oppose the Zionist project. But you know that. You are just being ignorant, lazy and provocative, like so many Zionist hasbarist provocateurs. Shame on you.
On the contrary I tried to talk to ANTI Zionist pro Hamas pro Palestine protestor by saying Hamas are bad for Palestinians and I immediacy got fraudulently accused and abused by being a ZIONST AND baby killer - the playbook was I’m not taking to you YOU ARE A ZIONIST…
THIS is the play book of The radical left Anti Zionist WHO INVERT FACTS WITH AHISTORICAL NARRATIVES with the never ending 75 year old pro Arafat bogus flawed Ahistorical never ending Palestinian false victim one sided narrative that rejected an ADDITIONAL Arab state ( Arab state Jordan etc ) alongside the only Jewish state in PEACE instead war Arab 48 war launched a genocidal intended war of driving Jews into the sea. AND LOST. ( Jews were always indigenous to the land prior - then other Jews who subsequently arrive LEGALLY bought land plots from absentee or otherwise Arabs owners ( in a Ottomon rule or British mandate owned land that was never a Palestine state that was owned by Arabs ) and Jews started homesteading years before even decades before 1947 ) then calling themselves Palestinians .. Palestianism has always been about the destruction of the only Jewish state not building an independent state of their own as they rejected it from 1937 to 2008. Funny how Jordan has no Jewish citizens( Jordan forbids them ) or no Synagogues or even Hamas or PA want any Jews in the territory they governed under autonomy. ( Jordan ethnically cleansed Jews too when they annexed Westbank for 2 decades. Similar with Egypt controlling Gaza for 2 decades - they never offered ( or demanded ) to give so called Palestinians ( Arabs ) an independent state called Palestine.
Oh so typical that Anti Zionists another despicable ideology worse than even normal anti semitism only like anyone that is ANTI Zionists despicable . Oh I like Jews as long as they destroy the only Jewish state they have F K U . I love Pakistanis but I think Pakistan should be destroyed . Like there are countless Ethno majority Nation states Jordan ( Arab Islam - no Jews as citizens allowed too ) , Finland , Israel, Croatia. Serbia. Italy , Greece, Norway, Japan, Saudi Arabia , malay in Malaysia etc etc ffs
I’m a Zionist - simply believe in the right and existence of the Jewish state — but that should not be controversial but I say it because Israel is the only nation state that has had it statehood legitimacy questioned for its existence for years in the most vile double standard way and called out by others to see its destruction. And that is wrong, vile double standard- so I gladly say Im a Christian Zionist if i wasn’t a Christian I would be pro Israel atheist Zionist
Ofcourse you can criticise your government like British do in uk and Israelis do in Israel etc etc - that’s democracy .. but if I ask does uk have a right to exist ? No one says no or asks but so many radical left anti Zionists ( say no Israel has no right to exist ) and Islamists and far right woke right crack pots call for its destruction or have Israel derangement syndrome and that’s vile. In that context Anti Zionism is a vile scourge —- and it’s also a worse form of the new vile genocidal anti semitism- Thats calls for the destruction of the only Jewish state- among all other states. (Singled out like a Jew among nations)
Ps. Many Israelis constantly criticise and protest when they disagree with the Israel government in Israel - so the idea that anti semites say and others gaslight and mislead and say “ we are not allowed to criticise Israel and if we do ifs Anti semitism “ - no that’s misleading as that’s not the truth - as above as many Israelis and other’s can and do criticise it - that’s not what I am talking about - I’m talking about the double standard that says Israel has no right to exist - anti Zionism. As above… !
I guess I must have a different definition of wokeism. To me, it means a secular liberalism that recognises all lifestyles equally, allows for gay marriage, gay adoption, state-funded 'gender-affirming care" (including surgery) for transitioning children, promotes trans women competing in women's sports, and allows for and protects 394 gender types.
In short, Orestes, your comment makes absolutely no sense to me.
Orban is very different from VDL. You can say they are both awful, but you must agree that they stand on opposite sides of the sociopolitical spectrum.
Can/should the EU Council & Commission, bodies not elected by a democratic process, rule over the national direction of the constituent nations whose leaders are democratically elected ? One would think not.
Exactly that is the point. The USA has direct elections of its President. The EU selects a President through opaque, back room deals. It is horribly undemocratic. That is what i was writing about, especially in my previous article, "NATO is a Farce, Part 7: Europe's New Authoritarianism"
On the contrary I tried to talk to ANTI Zionist pro Hamas pro Palestine protestor by saying Hamas are bad for Palestinians and I immediacy got fraudulently accused and abused by being a ZIONST AND baby killer - the playbook was I’m not taking to you YOU ARE A ZIONIST…
THIS is the play book of The radical left Anti Zionist WHO INVERT FACTS WITH AHISTORICAL NARRATIVES with the never ending 75 year old pro Arafat bogus flawed Ahistorical never ending Palestinian false victim one sided narrative that rejected an ADDITIONAL Arab state ( Arab state Jordan etc ) alongside the only Jewish state in PEACE instead war Arab 48 war launched a genocidal intended war of driving Jews into the sea. AND LOST. ( Jews were always indigenous to the land prior - then other Jews who subsequently arrive LEGALLY bought land plots from absentee or otherwise Arabs owners ( in a Ottomon rule or British mandate owned land that was never a Palestine state that was owned by Arabs ) and Jews started homesteading years before even decades before 1947 ) then calling themselves Palestinians .. Palestianism has always been about the destruction of the only Jewish state not building an independent state of their own as they rejected it from 1937 to 2008. Funny how Jordan has no Jewish citizens( Jordan forbids them ) or no Synagogues or even Hamas or PA want any Jews in the territory they governed under autonomy. ( Jordan ethnically cleansed Jews too when they annexed Westbank for 2 decades. Similar with Egypt controlling Gaza for 2 decades - they never offered ( or demanded ) to give so called Palestinians ( Arabs ) an independent state called Palestine.
Oh so typical that Anti Zionists another despicable ideology worse than even normal anti semitism only like anyone that is ANTI Zionists despicable . Oh I like Jews as long as they destroy the only Jewish state they have F K U . I love Pakistanis but I think Pakistan should be destroyed . Like there are countless Ethno majority Nation states Jordan ( Arab Islam - no Jews as citizens allowed too ) , Finland , Israel, Croatia. Serbia. Italy , Greece, Norway, Japan, Saudi Arabia , malay in Malaysia etc etc ffs
Not surprised. You and he have similar views of Jewish people too.
Actually you are WRONG. 100% WRONG. Orbán and I may feel similarly about Jews in general (i.e., supportive), but we differ COMPLETELY when it comes to Zionists and Israel:
From the AP:
"Netanyahu greets Hungary’s Orban as ‘true friend of Israel’"
https://apnews.com/article/938bb193c0894691bf42a6457d1fae4c
Or this one:
"The Roots of Orban’s Strong Bond with Israel and its PM"
https://balkaninsight.com/2023/11/14/the-roots-of-orbans-strong-bond-with-israel-and-its-pm/
Or The Times of Israel, who said:
"But for Israel, and those in its government concerned with realpolitik, Orban’s victory is a diplomatic blessing: Hungary under Orban has proven to be a sturdy friend of Israel in European institutions."
https://www.timesofisrael.com/orbans-victory-strengthens-his-ability-to-stand-up-to-the-eu-including-on-israel/
I oppose the Zionist project. But you know that. You are just being ignorant, lazy and provocative, like so many Zionist hasbarist provocateurs. Shame on you.
On the contrary I tried to talk to ANTI Zionist pro Hamas pro Palestine protestor by saying Hamas are bad for Palestinians and I immediacy got fraudulently accused and abused by being a ZIONST AND baby killer - the playbook was I’m not taking to you YOU ARE A ZIONIST…
THIS is the play book of The radical left Anti Zionist WHO INVERT FACTS WITH AHISTORICAL NARRATIVES with the never ending 75 year old pro Arafat bogus flawed Ahistorical never ending Palestinian false victim one sided narrative that rejected an ADDITIONAL Arab state ( Arab state Jordan etc ) alongside the only Jewish state in PEACE instead war Arab 48 war launched a genocidal intended war of driving Jews into the sea. AND LOST. ( Jews were always indigenous to the land prior - then other Jews who subsequently arrive LEGALLY bought land plots from absentee or otherwise Arabs owners ( in a Ottomon rule or British mandate owned land that was never a Palestine state that was owned by Arabs ) and Jews started homesteading years before even decades before 1947 ) then calling themselves Palestinians .. Palestianism has always been about the destruction of the only Jewish state not building an independent state of their own as they rejected it from 1937 to 2008. Funny how Jordan has no Jewish citizens( Jordan forbids them ) or no Synagogues or even Hamas or PA want any Jews in the territory they governed under autonomy. ( Jordan ethnically cleansed Jews too when they annexed Westbank for 2 decades. Similar with Egypt controlling Gaza for 2 decades - they never offered ( or demanded ) to give so called Palestinians ( Arabs ) an independent state called Palestine.
YOU ARE A DESPICABLE ANTI ZIONIST WHICH IS THE WORSE FORM OF ANTISEMITISM DOUGLAS MURRAY IS SO RIGHT
Oh so typical that Anti Zionists another despicable ideology worse than even normal anti semitism only like anyone that is ANTI Zionists despicable . Oh I like Jews as long as they destroy the only Jewish state they have F K U . I love Pakistanis but I think Pakistan should be destroyed . Like there are countless Ethno majority Nation states Jordan ( Arab Islam - no Jews as citizens allowed too ) , Finland , Israel, Croatia. Serbia. Italy , Greece, Norway, Japan, Saudi Arabia , malay in Malaysia etc etc ffs
I’m a Zionist - simply believe in the right and existence of the Jewish state — but that should not be controversial but I say it because Israel is the only nation state that has had it statehood legitimacy questioned for its existence for years in the most vile double standard way and called out by others to see its destruction. And that is wrong, vile double standard- so I gladly say Im a Christian Zionist if i wasn’t a Christian I would be pro Israel atheist Zionist
Ofcourse you can criticise your government like British do in uk and Israelis do in Israel etc etc - that’s democracy .. but if I ask does uk have a right to exist ? No one says no or asks but so many radical left anti Zionists ( say no Israel has no right to exist ) and Islamists and far right woke right crack pots call for its destruction or have Israel derangement syndrome and that’s vile. In that context Anti Zionism is a vile scourge —- and it’s also a worse form of the new vile genocidal anti semitism- Thats calls for the destruction of the only Jewish state- among all other states. (Singled out like a Jew among nations)
Ps. Many Israelis constantly criticise and protest when they disagree with the Israel government in Israel - so the idea that anti semites say and others gaslight and mislead and say “ we are not allowed to criticise Israel and if we do ifs Anti semitism “ - no that’s misleading as that’s not the truth - as above as many Israelis and other’s can and do criticise it - that’s not what I am talking about - I’m talking about the double standard that says Israel has no right to exist - anti Zionism. As above… !
Both, Orban and VDL, are awful persons. With Hungary’s “explosive “ birth rate, I wonder who’ll support the elderly. Lots of wokeism in your article.
I guess I must have a different definition of wokeism. To me, it means a secular liberalism that recognises all lifestyles equally, allows for gay marriage, gay adoption, state-funded 'gender-affirming care" (including surgery) for transitioning children, promotes trans women competing in women's sports, and allows for and protects 394 gender types.
In short, Orestes, your comment makes absolutely no sense to me.
Orban is very different from VDL. You can say they are both awful, but you must agree that they stand on opposite sides of the sociopolitical spectrum.
Can/should the EU Council & Commission, bodies not elected by a democratic process, rule over the national direction of the constituent nations whose leaders are democratically elected ? One would think not.
Exactly that is the point. The USA has direct elections of its President. The EU selects a President through opaque, back room deals. It is horribly undemocratic. That is what i was writing about, especially in my previous article, "NATO is a Farce, Part 7: Europe's New Authoritarianism"
https://euroyankee.substack.com/p/nato-is-a-farce-part-7-europes-new
On the contrary I tried to talk to ANTI Zionist pro Hamas pro Palestine protestor by saying Hamas are bad for Palestinians and I immediacy got fraudulently accused and abused by being a ZIONST AND baby killer - the playbook was I’m not taking to you YOU ARE A ZIONIST…
THIS is the play book of The radical left Anti Zionist WHO INVERT FACTS WITH AHISTORICAL NARRATIVES with the never ending 75 year old pro Arafat bogus flawed Ahistorical never ending Palestinian false victim one sided narrative that rejected an ADDITIONAL Arab state ( Arab state Jordan etc ) alongside the only Jewish state in PEACE instead war Arab 48 war launched a genocidal intended war of driving Jews into the sea. AND LOST. ( Jews were always indigenous to the land prior - then other Jews who subsequently arrive LEGALLY bought land plots from absentee or otherwise Arabs owners ( in a Ottomon rule or British mandate owned land that was never a Palestine state that was owned by Arabs ) and Jews started homesteading years before even decades before 1947 ) then calling themselves Palestinians .. Palestianism has always been about the destruction of the only Jewish state not building an independent state of their own as they rejected it from 1937 to 2008. Funny how Jordan has no Jewish citizens( Jordan forbids them ) or no Synagogues or even Hamas or PA want any Jews in the territory they governed under autonomy. ( Jordan ethnically cleansed Jews too when they annexed Westbank for 2 decades. Similar with Egypt controlling Gaza for 2 decades - they never offered ( or demanded ) to give so called Palestinians ( Arabs ) an independent state called Palestine.
Oh so typical that Anti Zionists another despicable ideology worse than even normal anti semitism only like anyone that is ANTI Zionists despicable . Oh I like Jews as long as they destroy the only Jewish state they have F K U . I love Pakistanis but I think Pakistan should be destroyed . Like there are countless Ethno majority Nation states Jordan ( Arab Islam - no Jews as citizens allowed too ) , Finland , Israel, Croatia. Serbia. Italy , Greece, Norway, Japan, Saudi Arabia , malay in Malaysia etc etc ffs
Malay Muslim predominant structured rule in Malaysia . Quran only Arab Muslim rule etc
James, I invite you to read my article, "Israel Has a Nasty Habit of Killing Its Own".
https://euroyankee.substack.com/p/israel-has-a-nasty-habit-of-killing