Similarly not even one of the Israeli hostages released has said they were sexually abused either. While on the other hand, there have been credible reports of the Israelis torturung and abusing Palestinian hostages:
"The campaign of horror stories retold by Zaka leaders are part of an orchestrated campaign of misinformation, hasbara, designed to influence public opinion worldwide and garner support for Israel’s wildly disproportionate response. Spokespeople like Landau were out in front of cameras every day, relating the most horrific stories, none of which were ever verified."
And they never intended them to be verifiable stories. It was just one big smear campaign. The sickest thing of all is that every time false rape stories are perpetrated, REAL victims of sexual assault are made to feel like they're not to be believed, so they don't report the crime. Israel has destroyed decades of work to help women become brave enough to report rape so the rapists can be caught and jailed. The world is a much more dangerous place.
Watched it. There is no videos or photos of rape and certainly no evidence. There also exists no photos or videos of what you describe. I’ve spent the last 11 months looking….hard. The only conclusion one can come to is that you are lying. Sick fuck.
You sound like a typical rabid Zionist whose web of lies has been revealed. All you have is rage and, wait for it, calling me a Jew hater. Even if Hamas had raped some women it would not justify the horrific genocide (yes) that Israel is wreaking on Gaza. So many wrongs hidden by the Zionists now coming out. Our government is still OWNED by Israel. Hoping that will change some day. You know who I love and revere? Those Holocaust survivors and other Jews who admit this a horrifying genocide and are trying mightily to stop. The rest of the apologists, Jewish, Christian, Atheist, etc. are inhuman psychopathic devils, and I hope there is retribution some day, but probably not.
You know what I love? Rape denialists who then kind of equivocate on it. I love being called a rabid Zionist. You know. No Jews or dogs allowed. You have a great moral compass you lame brain.
I don’t know why you want to defend the savages on October 7. What do you get out of it? There is so much witness testimony. The dead women were hanging from trees bleeding. People saw this.
As far as rage goes, I only see it from you. I know what I believe is true. I know what Hamas is.
I merely suggest that people like Yossi Landau are despicable liars and hasbarists, and I affirm that the Israeli police have no evidence of rape by Hamas on 10/7. I do not claim to be impressive. I was simply blessed with a good BS detector and I have cultivated a good nose for smelly, putrid, rancid HASBARA. Moreover, I would go so far to say that you are a rank hasbarist yourself, and if you could actually provide me with the name of an Israeli woman who was credibly raped on 10/7 by Hamas, YOU WOULD HAVE. But you see, you cannot. Lame.
Just from a common sense perspective, did it ever occur to you that maybe said woman would prefer to remain anonymous? I know if it was me, I would! I wouldn't want to repeat the episode EVER!
Yes, that makes sense. It made sense to the Israelis, too, That is why the police ordered all the hospitals, clinics and first responders to report all possible instances of rape - WITHOUT CONSULTING THE VICTIMS WHO WERE TREATED.
But aside from that, there were 5000 festival attendees at the Nova music festival, where the rapes were supposed to have taken place. Only those two people came forward to say they witnessed rape, and neither of them are credible. Certainly if Hamas were on a rape rampage there would have been more witnesses.
Moreover, if Hamas were intending to use rape and "weaponised" sexual violence "in a systematic way" (as has been asserted) then certainly the police would have found SOME forensic evidence of this "systematic" rampage. THEY FOUND NOTHING.
Steffen, I wanted to reply more fulsomely. I am opposed to the genocide that Israel is perpetrating on the people of Gaza. The "weaponised rape" narrative is Israeli propaganda to buy sympathy and help justify the genocide. We see babies being massacred in Gaza, but we are forced by Israeli Hasbara to think instead about Hamas raping women, beheading babies, cooking babies in ovens and so forth. These stories are all false narratives designed to provide a fig leaf for genocide. Biden himself when he declared "unlimited support" for Israel did so by saying he had seen video evidence of babies burned and beheaded. This cannot stand.
I’m not sure it matters does it. As you say, it is well established that sexual violence is a weapon of war. What Hamas did was atrocious, what Israel is doing in response is atrocious. Focusing on your question is just a distraction, as if by failing to get an answer to your question, the rest of what happened on 7th October suddenly becomes questionable.
I don't think you have read my piece. I DID NOT say that "it is well established that sexual violence is a weapon of war." On the contrary, my point is that sexual violence was NOT used as a "weapon of war" on October 7. In fact, I specifically stated that:
"What I am denying is that Hamas had issued orders to its fighters to use rape as a weapon of war and terror, and to “systematically” use rape as a tactic to inflict pain and terror on the Israeli population."
I said that rape happens in war. I think, however, that the idea that certain groups "weaponise" sexual violence is almost always a canard, a propaganda tool. The Western media tried to first demonise Muammar Gaddafi with such a claim. I don't know how old you are, but I am old enough to remember that one of the reasons that the West gave for NATO intervention in Libya in 2011 was that Gaddafi was distributing Viagra to his troops in order to use rape as a weapon of war. This claim was made by the despicable warmonger Susan Rice, the US Ambassador to the UN at the time, as well as the ever bloodthirsty Hillary Clinton, then Secretary of State.
In short, accusing an enemy of using rape as a weapon is simply used as a propaganda narrative to demonise and dehumanise the enemy and justify a brutal campaign against them. The US did it to Gaddafi in 2011, Israel did it to Hamas in 2023. IN BOTH CASES, THE CHARGES WERE FALSE.
What I DID say was that rape happens in war. For example: at the end of WWII, i.e., from D-Day in 1944 onward, Allied soldiers (including Americans) raped an estimated 900,000 German women. I do not think anyone would suggest that Eisenhower ordered the Allied troops to rape the German women. Do you?
Finally, the fact that I cannot get an answer to my question VERY MUCH calls into questions the other stories of Hamas "atrocities" on 10/7. For example, it has now been proven that NO babies were burned alive; NO babies were beheaded; NO babies were cooked in ovens; NO babies were "hung on clotheslines". These have all been proven to be salacious Hasbara narratives pushed by Israeli military officials and the Zaka rescue group, which has been widely discredited. In fact, only one baby was killed when a Hamas fighter shot blindly through the door to a Safe Room in Kibbutz Be'eri.
Hamas carried out a military raid aimed at neutralising Israeli military assets and taking both military and civilian hostages. However, other groups and individuals were also running around that day, and it is possible that some of them may have committed rape, but as I say in my article, the Israeli police have so far been unable to find any record or evidence of such crimes.
I hear you. But what I’m saying is it doesn’t matter. Let’s agree for the sake argument, Hamas didn’t kill babies and didn’t rape. What they did do was atrocious, even if you just look at the evidence of broken bodies and hostages taken. Equally, what Israel is doing in response is atrocious. Western propaganda that seeks to dehumanise is simply doing what opposing sides in war have always done. Rather than putting efforts into trying to prove the propaganda is false, aren’t you better off focusing on what we do know which is already sufficient to argue for a permanent end to the Israeli action and find a solution for these two peoples?
Except THESE ARE NOT OPPOSING SIDES IN A WAR. Israel is an "Occupying Power". Gaza an "Occupied Territory", as is the West Bank.
Under International Law, specifically the Geneva Conventions of 1949, to which Israel is a signatory, an Occupying Power has legal obligations toward the occupied population. Namely, they must provide for food, water, shelter and quality of life. Israel is in flagrant violation of this law, and in Gaza it has been in violation since 2006.
The Palestinians, on the other hand, as an "Occupied Population" under the Geneva statutes, have a legal RIGHT to resist their occupation, and to do so by "any available means".
Now of course those means do not allow war crimes, but Hamas, as a Resistance Movement (which is what the name Hamas means) is allowed to exist and to offer resistance to the Israeli occupation. In fact, if you read the Hamas Charter, it is all in accordance with the Geneva Conventions and other bodies of international law.
I think you should read my other article: "Please Don’t Call the Conflict in Gaza a “War” — It Is Not."
As far as finding a permanent end to the situation is concerned, I am afraid the only permanent solution will be something akin to what was done with Apartheid South Africa: dismantlement.
Israel, as it is constituted today, will NEVER accept a 2-state solution. Such a solution goes against every tenet of Zionism, and the Israelis have been resisting such a solution since their founding.
Moreover, the Religious Zionists (like Ben Gvir and Smotrich) have taken control of the country and are not letting go. They will only get stronger as time goes on.
I agree with almost everything you say here (and will read your other article). I agree it isn’t a war in the traditional sense and only used the expression as “shorthand” for what is going on and has been going on between Hamas and IDF for decades. However, I don’t agree that Hamas’ charter accords with Geneva Convention and other international laws when it specifically seeks the elimination of all Jews. Hamas no more cares about the Gaza population than Israel’s government. The civilian populations on both sides are appallingly let down by their governing authorities. However in the short term there has to be a ceasefire before any further step towards any attempt at resolution.
Hamas does not seek the elimination of all Jews. They updated their charter in 2017 to be more accurate and succinct. The Hamas charter calls for the elimination of the *Zionist regime*. It’s hard to argue with that. As for Hamas representing the people they are akin to the Viet Cong in Vietnam or the Jews that lead the Warsaw Ghetto uprising. It would be foolish to say that even though these freedom fighter groups were decimated by the Americans and NAZIs respectively they didn’t care about their own people. After all most Hamas members joined because at least one family member was murdered by Israel. One must constantly be aware of ingrained biases toward these kind of groups as we have been heavily propagandize to hate them here in the west.
Never ask a man
his salary
A woman
her age
And Israel
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for evidence
Similarly not even one of the Israeli hostages released has said they were sexually abused either. While on the other hand, there have been credible reports of the Israelis torturung and abusing Palestinian hostages:
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/05/10/whistleblowers-further-expose-israels-torture-of-detainees/
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/10/middleeast/israel-sde-teiman-detention-whistleblowers-intl-cmd/index.html
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/13/after-the-unrwa-report-more-accounts-of-israels-torture-in-gaza
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/04/middleeast/un-israel-confessions-allegations-intl/index.html
And yet the white colonial nations alliance has their mainstream media continue with the constant and totally unfounded lies about this.
Yeah, this is wild. Especially after hearing politicians from Biden to House members to Senators regurgitate this unsubstantiated claim.
I’ve been arguing this point for months and even had someone reply “….. even if they didn’t do it, it’s something I wouldn’t put past them not to do…”
My reply to that is "Projection on the part of the Israelis, eh?"
"The campaign of horror stories retold by Zaka leaders are part of an orchestrated campaign of misinformation, hasbara, designed to influence public opinion worldwide and garner support for Israel’s wildly disproportionate response. Spokespeople like Landau were out in front of cameras every day, relating the most horrific stories, none of which were ever verified."
And they never intended them to be verifiable stories. It was just one big smear campaign. The sickest thing of all is that every time false rape stories are perpetrated, REAL victims of sexual assault are made to feel like they're not to be believed, so they don't report the crime. Israel has destroyed decades of work to help women become brave enough to report rape so the rapists can be caught and jailed. The world is a much more dangerous place.
The Director of the Al Jazeera doc about 10/7:
https://youtu.be/-mxfnya3ZRc?si=E2_RWYaq1G8t2vGP
Another good question to open with is “how many be babies were headed”. That’s always a good start 😢
https://youtu.be/TApiok-KiRc
https://youtu.be/YPIjf4GWCmA
These are the names of the two ladies: Justice and Truth, violently raped ever since
Israeli women dead bleeding naked hanging from trees. Witness testimony. Fuck all of you monstrous human scum
Link?
Google it yourself. It’s not hard. Watch Screams before Silence. Don’t be an asshole.
So you also don't have a name. Noted.
Watched it. There is no videos or photos of rape and certainly no evidence. There also exists no photos or videos of what you describe. I’ve spent the last 11 months looking….hard. The only conclusion one can come to is that you are lying. Sick fuck.
Absolute masters of Hasbara, but the "complex story" is starting to crack wide open.
So you deny Hamas rape and sexual violence? You sound like an impressive person
You sound like a typical rabid Zionist whose web of lies has been revealed. All you have is rage and, wait for it, calling me a Jew hater. Even if Hamas had raped some women it would not justify the horrific genocide (yes) that Israel is wreaking on Gaza. So many wrongs hidden by the Zionists now coming out. Our government is still OWNED by Israel. Hoping that will change some day. You know who I love and revere? Those Holocaust survivors and other Jews who admit this a horrifying genocide and are trying mightily to stop. The rest of the apologists, Jewish, Christian, Atheist, etc. are inhuman psychopathic devils, and I hope there is retribution some day, but probably not.
You know what I love? Rape denialists who then kind of equivocate on it. I love being called a rabid Zionist. You know. No Jews or dogs allowed. You have a great moral compass you lame brain.
No one can list a single name. You're 😵💫
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67629181
I don’t know why you want to defend the savages on October 7. What do you get out of it? There is so much witness testimony. The dead women were hanging from trees bleeding. People saw this.
As far as rage goes, I only see it from you. I know what I believe is true. I know what Hamas is.
Samuel Johnson had it wrong. It is actually "antisemitism" that is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Thank you for showing us once more what a rank hasbarist you are.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-04-18/ty-article-magazine/witnesses-confessions-naked-dead-bodies-all-the-evidence-of-hamas-rape-on-oct-7/0000018e-f114-d92e-abfe-f77f7e3f0000
I merely suggest that people like Yossi Landau are despicable liars and hasbarists, and I affirm that the Israeli police have no evidence of rape by Hamas on 10/7. I do not claim to be impressive. I was simply blessed with a good BS detector and I have cultivated a good nose for smelly, putrid, rancid HASBARA. Moreover, I would go so far to say that you are a rank hasbarist yourself, and if you could actually provide me with the name of an Israeli woman who was credibly raped on 10/7 by Hamas, YOU WOULD HAVE. But you see, you cannot. Lame.
Just from a common sense perspective, did it ever occur to you that maybe said woman would prefer to remain anonymous? I know if it was me, I would! I wouldn't want to repeat the episode EVER!
Yes, that makes sense. It made sense to the Israelis, too, That is why the police ordered all the hospitals, clinics and first responders to report all possible instances of rape - WITHOUT CONSULTING THE VICTIMS WHO WERE TREATED.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-12-24/ty-article/.premium/without-victims-consent-police-orders-hospitals-to-reveal-info-about-hamas-sexual-crimes/0000018c-9c3f-d17b-addd-bf7f3f300000
THEY CAME UP EMPTY-HANDED.
But aside from that, there were 5000 festival attendees at the Nova music festival, where the rapes were supposed to have taken place. Only those two people came forward to say they witnessed rape, and neither of them are credible. Certainly if Hamas were on a rape rampage there would have been more witnesses.
Moreover, if Hamas were intending to use rape and "weaponised" sexual violence "in a systematic way" (as has been asserted) then certainly the police would have found SOME forensic evidence of this "systematic" rampage. THEY FOUND NOTHING.
Jesus Christ, what is the matter with you?
So you don't have a name, either. Noted.
Steffen, I wanted to reply more fulsomely. I am opposed to the genocide that Israel is perpetrating on the people of Gaza. The "weaponised rape" narrative is Israeli propaganda to buy sympathy and help justify the genocide. We see babies being massacred in Gaza, but we are forced by Israeli Hasbara to think instead about Hamas raping women, beheading babies, cooking babies in ovens and so forth. These stories are all false narratives designed to provide a fig leaf for genocide. Biden himself when he declared "unlimited support" for Israel did so by saying he had seen video evidence of babies burned and beheaded. This cannot stand.
This is the best crew of rape deniers and excusers of sexual violence. It is wonderful that you let your true feelings come out here.
You must have gotten an A in Hasbara school. Ignore all comments. Keep repeating the propaganda.
So NOW you're going to give us a name, right?
Every accusation is a confession
I’m not sure it matters does it. As you say, it is well established that sexual violence is a weapon of war. What Hamas did was atrocious, what Israel is doing in response is atrocious. Focusing on your question is just a distraction, as if by failing to get an answer to your question, the rest of what happened on 7th October suddenly becomes questionable.
I don't think you have read my piece. I DID NOT say that "it is well established that sexual violence is a weapon of war." On the contrary, my point is that sexual violence was NOT used as a "weapon of war" on October 7. In fact, I specifically stated that:
"What I am denying is that Hamas had issued orders to its fighters to use rape as a weapon of war and terror, and to “systematically” use rape as a tactic to inflict pain and terror on the Israeli population."
I said that rape happens in war. I think, however, that the idea that certain groups "weaponise" sexual violence is almost always a canard, a propaganda tool. The Western media tried to first demonise Muammar Gaddafi with such a claim. I don't know how old you are, but I am old enough to remember that one of the reasons that the West gave for NATO intervention in Libya in 2011 was that Gaddafi was distributing Viagra to his troops in order to use rape as a weapon of war. This claim was made by the despicable warmonger Susan Rice, the US Ambassador to the UN at the time, as well as the ever bloodthirsty Hillary Clinton, then Secretary of State.
The claim was later debunked by groups such as Amnesty International, as well as US intelligence services. (https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna42824884).
In short, accusing an enemy of using rape as a weapon is simply used as a propaganda narrative to demonise and dehumanise the enemy and justify a brutal campaign against them. The US did it to Gaddafi in 2011, Israel did it to Hamas in 2023. IN BOTH CASES, THE CHARGES WERE FALSE.
What I DID say was that rape happens in war. For example: at the end of WWII, i.e., from D-Day in 1944 onward, Allied soldiers (including Americans) raped an estimated 900,000 German women. I do not think anyone would suggest that Eisenhower ordered the Allied troops to rape the German women. Do you?
Finally, the fact that I cannot get an answer to my question VERY MUCH calls into questions the other stories of Hamas "atrocities" on 10/7. For example, it has now been proven that NO babies were burned alive; NO babies were beheaded; NO babies were cooked in ovens; NO babies were "hung on clotheslines". These have all been proven to be salacious Hasbara narratives pushed by Israeli military officials and the Zaka rescue group, which has been widely discredited. In fact, only one baby was killed when a Hamas fighter shot blindly through the door to a Safe Room in Kibbutz Be'eri.
Hamas carried out a military raid aimed at neutralising Israeli military assets and taking both military and civilian hostages. However, other groups and individuals were also running around that day, and it is possible that some of them may have committed rape, but as I say in my article, the Israeli police have so far been unable to find any record or evidence of such crimes.
I hear you. But what I’m saying is it doesn’t matter. Let’s agree for the sake argument, Hamas didn’t kill babies and didn’t rape. What they did do was atrocious, even if you just look at the evidence of broken bodies and hostages taken. Equally, what Israel is doing in response is atrocious. Western propaganda that seeks to dehumanise is simply doing what opposing sides in war have always done. Rather than putting efforts into trying to prove the propaganda is false, aren’t you better off focusing on what we do know which is already sufficient to argue for a permanent end to the Israeli action and find a solution for these two peoples?
Except THESE ARE NOT OPPOSING SIDES IN A WAR. Israel is an "Occupying Power". Gaza an "Occupied Territory", as is the West Bank.
Under International Law, specifically the Geneva Conventions of 1949, to which Israel is a signatory, an Occupying Power has legal obligations toward the occupied population. Namely, they must provide for food, water, shelter and quality of life. Israel is in flagrant violation of this law, and in Gaza it has been in violation since 2006.
The Palestinians, on the other hand, as an "Occupied Population" under the Geneva statutes, have a legal RIGHT to resist their occupation, and to do so by "any available means".
Now of course those means do not allow war crimes, but Hamas, as a Resistance Movement (which is what the name Hamas means) is allowed to exist and to offer resistance to the Israeli occupation. In fact, if you read the Hamas Charter, it is all in accordance with the Geneva Conventions and other bodies of international law.
I think you should read my other article: "Please Don’t Call the Conflict in Gaza a “War” — It Is Not."
https://open.substack.com/pub/joebrunoli/p/please-dont-call-the-conflict-in
As far as finding a permanent end to the situation is concerned, I am afraid the only permanent solution will be something akin to what was done with Apartheid South Africa: dismantlement.
Israel, as it is constituted today, will NEVER accept a 2-state solution. Such a solution goes against every tenet of Zionism, and the Israelis have been resisting such a solution since their founding.
Moreover, the Religious Zionists (like Ben Gvir and Smotrich) have taken control of the country and are not letting go. They will only get stronger as time goes on.
I agree with almost everything you say here (and will read your other article). I agree it isn’t a war in the traditional sense and only used the expression as “shorthand” for what is going on and has been going on between Hamas and IDF for decades. However, I don’t agree that Hamas’ charter accords with Geneva Convention and other international laws when it specifically seeks the elimination of all Jews. Hamas no more cares about the Gaza population than Israel’s government. The civilian populations on both sides are appallingly let down by their governing authorities. However in the short term there has to be a ceasefire before any further step towards any attempt at resolution.
Hamas does not seek the elimination of all Jews. They updated their charter in 2017 to be more accurate and succinct. The Hamas charter calls for the elimination of the *Zionist regime*. It’s hard to argue with that. As for Hamas representing the people they are akin to the Viet Cong in Vietnam or the Jews that lead the Warsaw Ghetto uprising. It would be foolish to say that even though these freedom fighter groups were decimated by the Americans and NAZIs respectively they didn’t care about their own people. After all most Hamas members joined because at least one family member was murdered by Israel. One must constantly be aware of ingrained biases toward these kind of groups as we have been heavily propagandize to hate them here in the west.
I wrote this to make that argument:
"Why I Refuse to Condemn Hamas"
https://euroyankee.substack.com/p/why-i-refuse-to-condemn-hamas